Archive for April, 2009
Favorite Bible verse?
Mark Smith’s ‘Contra Craig’ website http://jcnot4me.com/Items/contra_craig/contra_craig.htm
is a must read for anyone interested in discovering just how dishonest Bill Craig is when it comes to presenting the ‘evidence’ as he calls it.
Much of what Lane Craig says about math and science is absolute baffle gab. He counts on his audience not knowing that.
No wonder Bill Craig can win debates. He’s not interested in intellectual integrity, he’s simply intent on winning souls for Jesus. His attitude seems to be, ‘Damn The Truth - Full Speed Ahead’.
Here are a few of Bill Craig’s thoughts on how to apply evidence and reason when it comes to examining the claims of the Christian faith.
These quotes are taken from Craig’s book ‘Reasonable Faith’.
“as long as reason is a minister of the Christian faith, Christians should employ it.”
“We’ve already said that it’s the Holy Spirit who gives us the ultimate assurance of
Christianity’s truth. Therefore, the ONLY role left for argument and evidence to play is a SUBSIDIARY role.”
“I once asked a fellow seminary student “How do you know Christianity is true?” He replied “I really don’t know.” Does that mean he should give up Christianity till he finds rational arguments to ground his faith? Of course not! …The fact is we can know the truth whether we have rational arguments or not.”
“Some people… say that reason can at least be used… at least by the unbeliever. They ask how else could we determine which is true, the Bible, the Koran, or the Baghavad-Gita, unless we use argument and evidence to judge them? Now I’ve already answered that question: the Holy Spirit teaches us directly which teaching is really from God…”
“Thus, although arguments and evidence may be used to support the believer’s faith, they are never properly the basis of the faith.”
“Should a conflict arise between the witness of the Holy Spirit to the fundamental truth of the Christian faith and beliefs based on argument and evidence, then it is the former [i.e. "Holy Spirit"] which must take precedence over the latter [i.e. "argument & evidence"], not vice versa.”
“The ministerial use of reason occurs when reason SUBMITS TO and SERVES the gospel. ONLY the ministerial use of reason can be allowed Reason is a tool to help us better understand and defend our faith.”
How’s that for breathtaking hypocrisy? And he calls himself a scholar?
“An atheist named Mark Smith once talked with William Lane Craig and asked Craig that if he was to be put in a time machine and taken back to the first Easter morning at the tomb and they witnessed the whole morning with nothing happening, if that would be enough to show him that the resurrection didn’t happen. According to Smith, Craig replied that he would still believe that the resurrection happened and that some trick had been played on him. When asked why..Craig replied that he had the witness of the ‘Holy Spirit’ in his life.
In other words..historical evidence doesn’t matter to Craig. No amount of historical evidence contrary to Christianity- Bible contradictions, errors, anachronisms, myths, legends- none of that would convince Craig. Hell..if you showed him the actual body of Jesus…Craig would probably believe that the body was anatomically or genetically engineered to look like Jesus. I have come to the conclusion that it’s simply impossible for an evangelical like Bill Craig to not have faith in Jesus Christ. No evidence to the contrary can convince him when he thinks he has the witness of the ‘Holy Spirit’. How’s that for a rational human being?” - Ex-Christian.net Forums
“The way Craig treats evidence exposes his “scholarship” to be NOT scholarship, but instead just mere propaganda. Craig stacks the deck in his favor before he plays his first card- he intellectually cheats; and he advises his fellow Christians to go and do likewise. Craig tells his sheep to only pay attention to evidence that favors their preconceived notions, and to discount any and all evidence that might have the chance of changing their minds. Craig has thus descended to the level of book burners; he has made evidence / books against his religion irrelevant, which accomplishes the same thing but with less air pollution.” - Mark Smith
“Craig uses arguments and evidence the same way that a crooked lawyer uses “evidence” and “arguments”; anything that it takes to make his client win, regardless of the truth.” - Mark Smith
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Mark Smith’s ‘Contra Craig’ website http://jcnot4me.com/Items/contra_craig/contra_craig.htm
is a must read for anyone interested in discovering just how dishonest Bill Craig is when it comes to presenting the ‘evidence’ as he calls it.
Much of what Lane Craig says about math and science is absolute baffle gab. He counts on his audience not knowing that.
No wonder Bill Craig can win debates. He’s not interested in intellectual integrity, he’s simply intent on winning souls for Jesus. His attitude seems to be, ‘Damn The Truth - Full Speed Ahead’.
Here are a few of Bill Craig’s thoughts on how to apply evidence and reason when it comes to examining the claims of the Christian faith.
These quotes are taken from Craig’s book ‘Reasonable Faith’.
“as long as reason is a minister of the Christian faith, Christians should employ it.”
“We’ve already said that it’s the Holy Spirit who gives us the ultimate assurance of
Christianity’s truth. Therefore, the ONLY role left for argument and evidence to play is a SUBSIDIARY role.”
“I once asked a fellow seminary student “How do you know Christianity is true?” He replied “I really don’t know.” Does that mean he should give up Christianity till he finds rational arguments to ground his faith? Of course not! …The fact is we can know the truth whether we have rational arguments or not.”
“Some people… say that reason can at least be used… at least by the unbeliever. They ask how else could we determine which is true, the Bible, the Koran, or the Baghavad-Gita, unless we use argument and evidence to judge them? Now I’ve already answered that question: the Holy Spirit teaches us directly which teaching is really from God…”
“Thus, although arguments and evidence may be used to support the believer’s faith, they are never properly the basis of the faith.”
“Should a conflict arise between the witness of the Holy Spirit to the fundamental truth of the Christian faith and beliefs based on argument and evidence, then it is the former [i.e. "Holy Spirit"] which must take precedence over the latter [i.e. "argument & evidence"], not vice versa.”
“The ministerial use of reason occurs when reason SUBMITS TO and SERVES the gospel. ONLY the ministerial use of reason can be allowed Reason is a tool to help us better understand and defend our faith.”
How’s that for breathtaking hypocrisy? And he calls himself a scholar?
“An atheist named Mark Smith once talked with William Lane Craig and asked Craig that if he was to be put in a time machine and taken back to the first Easter morning at the tomb and they witnessed the whole morning with nothing happening, if that would be enough to show him that the resurrection didn’t happen. According to Smith, Craig replied that he would still believe that the resurrection happened and that some trick had been played on him. When asked why..Craig replied that he had the witness of the ‘Holy Spirit’ in his life.
In other words..historical evidence doesn’t matter to Craig. No amount of historical evidence contrary to Christianity- Bible contradictions, errors, anachronisms, myths, legends- none of that would convince Craig. Hell..if you showed him the actual body of Jesus…Craig would probably believe that the body was anatomically or genetically engineered to look like Jesus. I have come to the conclusion that it’s simply impossible for an evangelical like Bill Craig to not have faith in Jesus Christ. No evidence to the contrary can convince him when he thinks he has the witness of the ‘Holy Spirit’. How’s that for a rational human being?” - Ex-Christian.net Forums
“The way Craig treats evidence exposes his “scholarship” to be NOT scholarship, but instead just mere propaganda. Craig stacks the deck in his favor before he plays his first card- he intellectually cheats; and he advises his fellow Christians to go and do likewise. Craig tells his sheep to only pay attention to evidence that favors their preconceived notions, and to discount any and all evidence that might have the chance of changing their minds. Craig has thus descended to the level of book burners; he has made evidence / books against his religion irrelevant, which accomplishes the same thing but with less air pollution.” - Mark Smith
“Craig uses arguments and evidence the same way that a crooked lawyer uses “evidence” and “arguments”; anything that it takes to make his client win, regardless of the truth.” - Mark Smith
Duration : 0:10:0
There was an evil man. History records his name: Barabbas. He was a criminal. Sentenced to die. No justification. No hope. This is his story. Guilty one set free!Can we dare to dream? A short film.
Special recognition to Carman for inspiring with his song and the skit based on “This blood”
Duration : 0:10:43
There was an evil man. History records his name: Barabbas. He was a criminal. Sentenced to die. No justification. No hope. This is his story. Guilty one set free!Can we dare to dream? A short film.
Special recognition to Carman for inspiring with his song and the skit based on “This blood”
Duration : 0:10:43
I have my best friend who has been there for me, and she is more like a sister, and I love her so much. She has prayed for me, with me, and helped me find God.
“Came but for friendship, and took away love.” - Thomas Moore
“Things are never quite as scary when you've got a best friend.” - Bill Watterson
“My best friend is the one who brings out the best in me.” - Henry Ford
“Don't walk in front of me; I may not follow. Don't walk behind me; I may not lead. Just walk beside me and be my friend.” - Albert Camus
“He's my friend that speaks well of me behind my back” - Thomas Fuller
“A brother is a friend God gave you; a friend is a brother your heart chose for you.” - Proverb
Since TV evangelists claim to be inspired by God & clearly aren't, why believe writers of the Bible?
Those who wrote stories that ended up in the Bible are just like TV evangelists, inventing nonsense and claiming to be inspired by God when they said it, or wrote it. People may have fallen for it once upon a time, but we can't be fooled as easily today, as with the example of TV evangelists.
The Bible writers were much luckier than the TV evangelists… they worked without any competition!
I am 13 Christian and writing down all of my fav. Bible verses in a little book I plan to keep with me. Wold you mind sharing you favorite verses or the ones that you the most? Thank you so much and God Bless~~~~
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Thank you all so much! I have written all of the verses you have given me down so I can read them later. Thank you again~~
God Bless
He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. - Isaiah 53:3
Patrick talks to Larry about his large collection of good old fashioned Christian books, featuring the greats from Mrs Spurgeon (Charles’ mother) to Jonathan Edwards.
For those wishing to contact Mr. Harrison, his website is:
http://www.4gospel.com/Christian_Book_Gallery_Larry_Harrison_s/74.htm
Duration : 0:23:10